No Labour councillors where spotted with her, rumour as it they are coming from an agency who specialize in supporters. God the women must be desperate. I wonder if she uses a sat nav or A to Z.
Daily Archives: August 23, 2009
The view of most voters?
What do you think. undecided or disgusted? will any one ever trust politicians again. Democracy the fight for the vote and today your lucky if you get 20% taking the time out to put an x in a box. My worry it spells disaster take the BNP.
How far do we go when we fight issues, where do we draw the line.
Cllr Lindley made a point and he is correct i have just tried to show how with spin you can put any argument across you wish, Are the tory party rascist No of course not. But with a simple photo and comment the BNP use it to attack them. What i have tried to prove is don’t belive all the BNP Rubbish that comes through your door. Sadly i can’t see any change coming up to 2010
What is Tory Policy this week? funny picture below did they have photoshop in 2005
Well read this article i think it comes From The News of the world and tell me the BNP are not rascist,
A little girl grins with glee as she holds a golly over a fire . . . while a jeering BNP politician finds the doll guilty of BEING BLACK during a vile mock trial and execution. The baying crowd cheers when the toy – dubbed Winston – is condemned and dropped on to the flames to “die”. Goading on the assembled adults and kids, the politician, a local council candidate, yells out these chilling words: “Let’s get a real one . . . in the town we’ll find one or two.”
The sickening stunt was staged at the British National Party’s annual FAMILY festival last weekend – yet the BNP insists it is NOT racist as part of its successful ploy to attract votes in elections. Around 1,200 members converged on fields at Codnor, Derbys, for the Red White and Blue “fun” weekend. Our undercover reporter, posing as a supporter to gain entry to the members-only event, secretly filmed racism everywhere.
(Left, GUILTY: Golly ‘Winston’ is held by girl before being dropped on the fire)
For £1 a go, people were throwing wet sponges at a man in a Barack Obama mask locked in stocks. Elsewhere stalls were selling T-shirts with slogans like It’s A White Thing and books such as Race, Evolution and Behavior – which insists whites give birth to larger-brained babies and blacks are prone to crime. Supporters gave Nazi-style salutes and shouted Sieg Heil.
And in the “political tent”, party chairman and MEP Nick Griffin, 50, was setting out how his party would deal with proposed anti-discrimination laws forcing the BNP to change its whites-only membership policy. He said: “Since if we want to survive we will be forced to let them in, the key will be before we do so to change the party – to ensure that whoever’s coming in doesn’t have any control.”
Saturday night was the climax of the festival – and when the vileness reached its peak. Firstly, around 50 skinheads took part in a PAGAN ceremony to summon occult powers for their cause. They chanted incantations as they passed around and drank from an animal horn filled wth mead.
(Left, JUDGE & JURY: Coombes (seated), Hamilton (top left), and a BNP mate)
Two hours later, local council candidates John Coombes, of Maidenhead, Berks, and Dick Hamilton of Marlow, Bucks, were sitting with others around a brazier. Hamilton’s ghettoblaster blared out songs supporting Hitler and attacking “niggers”. Then began the “trial” led by Coombes, 45.
A 12-year-old girl there with her dad (we are protecting her identity) held a golly called Winston over the fire as Coombes “charged” him with “mugging, rape, drug dealing”. He sneered: “Right Winston, you’re about to get cooked. Anything else to say? Says he ain’t a drug dealer. He thinks he’s not black. He’s charged with being black. Now get on there.”
Skinhead Hamilton chipped in: “If he jumps off he’s innocent.” Coombes went on: “He’s guilty, guilty as charged. Let’s get a real one – in the town we’ll find one or two. They’ll also be guilty of the heinous crimes I charged him with – may God forgive your horrible soul.” Coombes repeated the charges then added: “He may have appeared innocent to you lot but I’m sure he done lots of things wrong.”
During the weekend the party’s other MEP Andrew Brons used his stint in the political tent to compare Muslims to SMALLPOX during his speech. He declared: “I’m less concerned about the presence of mosques than the presence of the people that use them. Being worried about the presence of a particular mosque is almost like looking at a disease like smallpox and saying it’s a problem with spots.”
Ex-BNP cultural officer Jonathan Bowden, 47, also attacked Islam, and dubbed Jewish Israel as “cancer”. He bleated: “The only way this (Muslim) problem will be solved is if they go back – go back to their civilisation. (But) we must renounce support for Israel. Israel is the cancer that lies at the heart of much of this.”
(Left, SICK SALUTE: Party supporters make the Nazi sign and yell out ‘Sieg Heil’)
And Greater London Authority member Richard Barnbrook joked about BLACKING himself up. The deputy opposition leader of Barking and Dagenham council boasted: “I’ve got balls made of steel. In my own ward, if I go around naked, and put boot polish on my face, they’d still love me.”
In the evenings, supporters sat round campfires venting hate. During one chat, Stockport area organiser Duncan Warner explained to our reporter in sick twisted logic why using the word “Paki” was OK.
“Paki means pure. So why do you get offended when all that they’re doing is calling you pure?” he whined. “You get called a Paki, how can you get offended by that?”
Elsewhere party supporter Danny Marshall, of Cotmanhay, Derbys, and his girlfriend Bev boasted of using intimidation tactics to rid the village of foreigners who’d moved there. Bev said: “Where I live is National Front. It’s BNP. There’s this black family that’s just moved in from Nigeria. An hour later they were out…They were coming to nick our jobs. They had an hour to get out of their premises – from us people, ourselves.”
Marshall said: “The Lithuanians and Czechs are sneaking in because they’re white. You find the fuckers on the doorstep.”
Bev added: “These guys from Poland came into Cotmanhay and did a car wash. Somebody wrote BNP on their sign – once that was there they were gone…guess who that was? Me and Danny. I wrote BNP.”
Elsewhere another man moaned: “If things don’t become any better, and I become older, so I’m 70 or 75, I’ll take a GPMG (machine gun) – seriously, I’m not joking here – and I’m going to fucking destroy lots of people.
On one occasion shouts of “Reds, reds” broke out. BNP members grabbed hammers and axes then charged to the perimeter fence. A lone anti-facism protester trying to get into the festival was stopped by police before the thugs got to him.
During the weekend police arrested 19 of the protesters outside – and one BNP member. Meanwhile, half an hour after the sick golly burning the BNP’s London organiser Bob Bailey arrived. With him was Griffin – who stated last October “the BNP is not racist”. Together they warmed themselves on the embers.
Just read Roy hattersleys biography and a section a bit before my time shocked me perhaps you should look it up yourselves but imagine if this was to happen today? even i was shocked.
A new language of racism in politics not from the book but a Newspaper
Maverick Conservative MP John Townend seems to be rewriting the lexicon of xenophobia, writes Derek Brown
In the general election of 1964, Patrick Gordon Walker was confidently expected to win the inner Birmingham seat of Smethwick and, in the event of a national Labour victory, go on to be Harold Wilson’s foreign secretary.
But Gordon Walker did not win. He was sensationally defeated by a Tory nonentity, Peter Griffiths, whose campaign featured the infamous 10-word slogan: “If you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Labour.”
No candidate would dream of saying such a thing now. If they did, they’d be prosecuted.
But there are more subtle ways in which race prejudice insinuates itself into political thought and action – and no party is immune from the poison. The last important politician to blatantly play the race card was Enoch Powell, in his days as the intellectual powerhouse of the Tory front bench.
In a Birmingham speech in 1968 he spoke of a constituent – “an ordinary working man” – who was so concerned by the rising numbers of black immigrants that he was determined to see that his three children settled abroad. The splendid irony of that position was clearly lost on Powell, and on his audience, who cheered to the echo the MP’s ardent plea for immigrants to be sent “home”.
The phrase which stuck in the lore and language of politics was, typically for Powell, a classical allusion: “Like the Roman, I seem to see the Tiber foaming with much blood.” Ted Heath sacked him more or less on the spot, but the damage was done.
For several weeks there was a surge of Powell-mania, and even talk – never by him – of the formation of a new popular nationalist party. A Gallup poll suggested that 74% of the population supported his repatriation suggestion. Smithfield meat porters joined dockers (almost certainly Labour supporters to a man) in pro-Powell marches.
Eventually the ruckus died down, and the dotty old classicist pottered off to Northern Ireland to end his political days as an eloquent, irrelevant, Ulster Unionist.
Powell was supposed to possess one of the finest analytical brains of his generation. Yet his argument was based not on logic, but on atavistic incoherence. He heard, and shared, his constituents’ alarm about the new faces, languages and cultures around them, and he proposed, very seriously, that the issue be resolved by ethnic cleansing.
(Once, a colleague asked Powell how he proposed this be done. After all, immigrants had been arriving by the shipload for 20 years. He considered the matter gravely and then announced: “Now, you see, we have” – pause for effect – “wide-bodied jets.”)
What Powell articulated then, and what the maverick MP John Townend is rambling about now, was a sense of national identity being eroded. With Powell, it was Britishness under attack. Townend is more concerned about Englishness, and specifically about the loopy old notion of Anglo Saxon-ness.
These are concepts that do not dare to speak their name in modern polite society, yet they are powerfully embedded still in the fabric of a society which is constantly told that its freedoms and privileges are under threat from foreigners.
Any target will do, in the new lexicon of xenophobia. Its practitioners can talk about the “flood” of asylum-seekers, never forgetting to slip in the adjective “bogus”. They can talk about the asylum system being “swamped” and about Britain being a “soft touch” for immigrant “cheats”. With language like that, they don’t need to revert to the crudities of Smethwick 37 years ago.
All right i nicked it off a labour site but it’s to good to waste.
On behalf of the Conservative party
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By Dan McCurry
Are there any Tories left who do “speak on behalf of the Conservative Party”? David Cameron is starting to sound comical. First it’s Dan Hannan, dismissed as an eccentric who doesn’t speak for the Conservative Party, and then it’s his EU mates, then we had Alan Duncan not speaking for the party when he described £65,000 a year as rations. Amazingly, we’ve now got Sir Patrick Cormack, a candidate for speaker no less, insisting that £130,000 is the correct remuneration for sitting about getting pissed in the commons bars waiting for the bell to ring so they can go staggering through the lobby gate; his mates pulling him in the right direction as he drunkenly joins the Labour line; all in order to complete the functions of a job that he describes as being comparable in responsibility to that of an “industrial leader”(!). Next thing you know we’ll have Douglas Hogg popping up and agreeing, only to be described as “not speaking for the party”. Wouldn’t that be amazing?
Ultimately, who wants to follow a man who isn’t directing the Conservative Party on the basis of his conviction, but on the basis of the only thing he knows; the media and communication? I mean, this is a bloke who was in Downing Street when Sterling fell out of the ERM and then decided he should get some work experience before entering parliament, but didn’t join the police, study economics, or work for the foreign office to gain an understanding of any of those complex subjects, he did what he believed to be the overwhelmingly important skill that would be needed by a future leader; he became a PR man. If he truly believed what he claimed to stand for, if he had conviction, he’d have his party with him, but he doesn’t have conviction, he’s guided by what he perceives is needed by the media, and his party knows it, and now they’re getting resentful at having to pretend to be something they’re not. The truth is that the Tories are not the nasty party; they’re just the party of the individual, but nice-guy-Dave is nasty, because he tries to make everyone pretend to be something they’re not. That is nasty.
The problem is not that Cameron fails to understand the Tories; I think he understands them perfectly well; he understands that they want to win. His problem is that he doesn’t understand the electorate. If a bloke stands in the polling booth and holds his pen over the Labour box and thinks, “I’m really worried about poverty and inequality. Maybe I should vote Labour?” Then he hovers the pen over the Conservative box and thinks, “Yeah, but I really want to have that nig new car.” He then ticks the Conservative Party box. Do you think I resent this man for voting Conservative? I don’t resent him; I respect him. Contrary to the beliefs of most party activists, it’s not the politicians who decide where the balance should exist between the role of the state and the role of the individual, it’s blokes like him; people who understand the issues but also understand their own needs, and they make that decision in their millions at the general election. That’s the role that the electorate play; they are ultimately the employers and we are the employees.
Cameron on the other hand, he thinks that because Blair was a successful politician, the Tories have to dismiss what they stand for and copy Labour; dismissing the Tory belief in the superiority of the individual to advocate the protection of the state. These days he’s trying to portray himself as intellectual, promoting authors on the subject of chaos theory, but this just proves he’s not an intellectual. If he was an intellectual, he’d advocate the purpose of Conservatism instead of aping the field of Socialism. If he was an intellectual he’d know that the needs of the British people swing like a pendulum between the two. This rightful and fruitful balance between individualism and the state is being damaged by Cameron, and although the Conservative Party may well get themselves a single term in office, they’ll be damaged long-term for eroding their reputation, their heritage and the very philosophy that underpins the institution that is the British Conservative Party.
Well we mentioned to Salford Radio about Political Debate the answer.
At this moment none, i got the feeling that a few felt that the BNP would have to be invited. So what i really feel that if the Major parties where to invite BNP candidates and debate with them, before the polls you may see a different level of support.And they deserve a democratic right to speak to the people even though i personly find their policies wrong.
Well how will you be voting in the General Election
You have some of the runners,how about if you sent in a few questions and i could forward the on. Shame Cllr Owen as blocked his site a great chance thrown away. We no Hazel is out and about and willing to talk, and we have seen Richard Carvath as put out his manifesto and two interviews with Salford online.So stick a questions in and i will try to get you a reply. Any one fancy putting out a candid view of what they think the candidates chances are?
I find pictures of a 12yr girll burning a golly @ BNP rally disgusting & disturbing.
I found This comment from Cllr Warmisham Blog, i am not sure from where he as found it. But i totally support his view. Immigration is a serious question which any sensible government should tackle but when i see the likes of the BNP use a persons skin colour it makes me sick to the pit of my stomach, and the day the British people wake up the sooner the better.
