Well you learn something new every day.

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^{So if you disagree with a Political party that gives up every thing it stands for,VAT rises STUDENT FEES,PUBLIC SERVICE CUTS,ETC.attaches itself to a party which it}

^{opposed for many years, put out a worthless manifesto and then looks likely to abstain on voting on  the issues.Then call me a troll,funny i thought it was free speech,amazing how the Liberal Democrats have changed.}

What planet do you live on Mr Clegg a care worker on £21,000 what’s it to be when you vote a sell out or a cop out??

Mr Clegg, who was repeatedly taunted in the Commons when he took Prime Minister’s Questions as Deputy PM, declined to say how he would vote. Harriet Harman, the deputy Labour leader, said it would be a “cop-out” to abstain, telling Mr Clegg: “If you vote against, that’s the only principled position. If you abstain, it’s a cop-out, if you vote for it’s a sell-out. Which is it?”

The Liberal Democrat leader pleaded for a more reasonable tone of debate on Coalition politics, saying that only backward-looking Labour MPs “regard every compromise as a betrayal”.

He said that under the Coalition’s plans, a care worker on £21,000 would pay back £7 a month on average, compared with £81 under the current scheme or £36 under a graduate tax. He said: “The proposal we are putting forward – we have a plan, they [Labour] have a blank sheet of paper – is fairer for students than the system we inherited from the Labour Government.”

it’s time to stand up and be counted

Your are fully supportive of these cuts or you are not. Perhaps the Manchester Evening News and the Advertiser should ask our political leaders of their views and their rational behind their thoughts on the issue. Local independents are normally left out of the equation in these two papers so possibly i will have to ask there views and report back.

Vince Cable, the Business Secretary, may not vote in favour of his own policy to raise university tuition fees in an attempt to bridge the deep divide among Liberal Democrats on the issue.

Mr Cable, whose department is responsible for higher education, had originally intended to support his plan to allow universities to charge up to £9,000 a year in the critical House of Commons vote later this month.

But in a highly unusual move, he is ready to abstain in the hope that the 57 Liberal Democrat MPs can unite around such a stance. He hopes that his offer will persuade some of the 13 Liberal Democrats threatening to oppose the rise to abstain instead.

Gut less ? what’s your view i amazed that a party that takes on the mantle of power can act in the manner it does.

Thanks for pointing me to this comment, Bill my view also

It is only an establishment view that the student protest is being coordinated by the NUS. The NUS is also part of the establishment. The protesters are entirely different people.

The current proposals are nothing but an attack on the relaively poor. It will deter people from such a background to take the decision to apply to go to University.

With the prospect of a £45000 debt hanging over heads after graduation, “middle income” background students/parents will come to a completely different decision than those with lower incomes.

Basically, this policy is Tory social engineering. The poor should remain poor. The Liberals are simply the lapdogs here. And highly comical ones at that. You couldn’t make it upThey announce the policy, then defend it and then………….abstain!

You can’t make it up the poster was right,,,,,

Mervyn King told US Cameron and Osborne were ‘out of their depth’ Diplomatic memos reveal Bank governor thought top Conservatives lacked experience to deal with deficit

Mr king what a very astute man you are,a very astute man indeed!!!!!

How can New LABOUR get any where with this man in charge?

Mr Miliband said he was “obviously” not in favour of violent protests but he understood the depth of anger that people felt about rising tuition fees and cuts in university budgets.

“I was quite tempted to go out and talk to them [protesters],” he said.

“I applaud young people who peacefully demonstrate. I said I was going to talk to them at some point, I was tempted to go out and talk to them.”

Asked why he had not, he explained: “I think I was doing something else at the time, actually.”

What’s up can’t remember?i get like that sometimes but i am over 55 SO I THINK I HAVE SOME EXCUSE…